Witness 10mm slide cracks

Great deal but 10mm in a polymer frame with short slide, ouch. There were cracks in both the slide and the frame for both weapons. Eaa tanfoglio witness steel frame full size pistol, 10mm, 15 round mag say you want a pistol for self defense, home defense or lawful concealed carry. Hi i been a fan of 10mm for couple of years now and now its time to own one i am going for the eaa 10mm elite match two tone why looks and weight but i am confuse on the size of the gun is it 4. If anything will crack one of these things it is fullpower 10mm. I wont say thousands due to cost but maybe one thousand rounds later it is still good with no cracks. Conversion kit images may not depict actual product features. Slidebarrel from a witness steel compact, manufactured in 2003. The 10mm version of the witness model does have some history of slide cracks, due most people say because the guns seem to have recoil springs that are too light for full power 10mm ammo.

While eaa has not disclosed a root cause, typically they require that you ship the entire gun back to them to have the issue corrected. Tanfoglio makes the 10mm witness, a pistol on the czplatform, thats had documented issues in the past, and not just cracked slides but q. I want an eaa 10mm but i keep reading about cracked slides and how bad eaas customer service is. This is a discussion on time for another spring upgrade in the eaa witness compact. Will this maybe older eaa witness 10mm be able to handle hot. Early models were known for cracking frames due to some metal being added to the frame.

Several 10mm witness slides did crack from the result of a batch of slides that were not properly heat treated for hardness. If i had to pick between a round slide tanfoglio or a glock its gonna be glock all day. I have a witness elite match in 10mm, great gun and very accurate. This replacement magazine is a factory original from eaa. Both suffered frame and slide cracks at round counts. Eaa witness series pistol are hand crafted in italy by tanfoglio.

But the square style on the witness match would be safe. The older witnesses that had issues had a distinctly rounded slide that would crack under pressure from hot 10mm rounds. Last but not least is the eaa witness, which is kind of a sleeper among the 10mm guns. Remington has a longslide 1911 coming to market soon as well. Long slide single action semiautomatic pistol made for uspsa limited, 3 gun, bullseye, ppc and target shooting. While other sights give off a hazy glow making it difficult to focus, dp sights offer you the sharpest picture. Most folks feel eaa worked out most of the problems with the 10mm witness models but those guns from a decade ago were pretty bad. After extensive research and many hours running these instances down, this is what i found. Eaa gold match xtreme custom 10mm long slide oak hill.

It came with the new and unimproved round top slide as seen in the video before being modified. I bought two new eaa witness pistols about three years ago, both in. The listing of their names is not intended to represent an endorsement by the manufacturer or any of its subsidiaries nor is it meant to represent an endorsement of the firearmbrand by eaa corp. Three extra power firing pin springs are also included for both eaa and other models. With viable options already on the market from the likes of. To be clear, i did not comp my 10mm witness pistols, but have done so with good results on other 10mm.

The round seems to catch on the case as it enters the barrel. Reduced power pak contains 1 each reduced power recoil springs in 9, 10, 11 and 12 pounds. Will this maybe older eaa witness 10mm be able to handle. Standard models, including full size baby eagle with 4. An older witness line pistol in 10mm with the old style slide, and with a.

Factory replacement parts are manufactured to the exact same specifications and tolerances and use the same manufacturing materials as the original parts which guarantees excellent fit and reliable operation. The general concensus over on the witness forums is that you should probably respring them and if they do crack, ask for christy or chrissy i forget which. All names, brands andor likenesses of the firearms listed in our accessoriesholsters section are property of their respective owners. Based on the time tested cz 75 design in various calibers and models ranging from the competition ready elite series up to the stock ii and iii plus gold and xtreme series custom pistols. Most of the stories i heard about involved the 10mm and the. In buying any 10 mm used check the frame rails very close they can crack. If theres one thing in this world i love its a light rail that ends when the slide does.

Honestly, with where the crack is, i think that would be enough. One was the full size, one the compact, both with the wonder finish. If you buy a current production 10mm you wont have any slide cracking issues. I would like to hear about the failures of eaa witness pistols. Witness problems page 1 10mm semiauto handguns 10mm. I guess i was lucky, in that i spotted the cracks before it actually flew apart in my hands. Their double stack magazines were totally unreliable and cs was notoriously hideous. From what ive read online the 10mm witness round slides have significant documented cases of cracking, and it seems like tanfoglio remedied this by using the squared slides that have the forward cocking serrations on the 10mm models and as far as i can tell these slide never crack.

Fortunately, i will get the purchase price refunded by the dealer hes helpful like that. Back to eaa on my dime, plus my dime for return shipping. I have a cz sp01 and a tangfolio 10mm witness hunter, which other than the 6. If you buy an older model that didnt have any slide cracking issues, let them know and theyll swap out the slide. Trick out or upgrade your firearm with the largest gun parts selection at. Is there really a difference with dawson precision sights. Looking for a 10mm handgun page 2 gun and game the. I have some experience with eaa and maybe can offer some input.

The witness also has a pretty significant beavertail, allowing users to hold the gun higher without fear of getting bit by the slide. If i get a 10mm conversion kit slide do i need to change any of the springs. If i do get a 10mm i want to shoot full power loads in it, i already have three. The 10mm is notorious for cracking slide and frames and battering issues in designs not originally intended for the more powerful cartridge. Tanfoglios witness xtreme is a new series of witness custom pistols currently in use by many of the winning competition shooters worldwide. As i was putting away the witness last night, i noticed a crack in the 10mm slide. To be clear, i did not comp my 10mm witness pistols, but have done so with good results on other 10mm pistols.

Between the two i had seven frame and slide cracks using standard velocity ammo at round counts in the high 2000 to low 3000 range. In the 1990s, tanfoglio of italy, known for their eaa witness series of cz75. The italian made eaa witness has had many problems with slide and frame cracking in the 10mm caliber. Looks to me like the rounded slide is the type prone to cracking.

I have convinced many friends to purchase them as well. Supposedly, their 10mm models have some durability issues, but some of. It was always a better round than 9mm, but the crippling cost of ammunition meant the best 10mm guns simply took a backseat and this perfect selfdefense round fell by the wayside. Early in the production of these pre2006 there was an issue with the slide or frame cracking under heavy use. European american armory revolver eaa windicator 357 magnum 2 nickel barrel pistol 770127. Time for another spring upgrade in the eaa witness compact. On match 29, 2010, oldandslow of reported cracks in his two 45acp witnesses time of crack indeterminate, time of purchase indeterminate. Also, the cracks typically appear at the bottom of the ejection port, and some guns have been run post crack with no failure because of the. Eaa 10mm elite match vs glock 20 current production.

I thought with 10mm which is the large frame, you can buy slidesbarrel for 45 acp as well as all the others smaller cartridges but with the large frame witness magazines. The pistol fired less than 400 rounds in its surprisingly short lifetime. Fullsize 10mm pistols from sig, glock, and rock island. The 10mm auto has such a fastmoving bullet that it tends wreak havoc with the pistols recoil mechanism. But there are polymer and match witness pistols available, too. The new standard witness has a rounded slide and it will crack with any real 10mm. Refurbish fiber optic sights by replacing broken or damaged rods, or change your sight colors to enhance your sight picture.

The square ones are a little rounded still on top, but have far more steel than the rounded ones. After several thousand rounds now, no cracking yet. European american armory revolver eaa windicator 357 magnum 4 nickel barrel pistol 770128. I really like the eaa witness but if it going to crack on me i might just forget about 10mm. For examples of the two compare the witness p slide to the witness pcarry slide on the eaa websight. Eaa tanfoglio witness match elite, semiautomatic, 10mm, 4. The art of 10mm long slide pistols has been growing over the past few years as hunters embrace the powerpacked round for big game. The problem was corrected by adding metal to the new slides so that they werent rounded, but were more of a squared off shape. I really love dasa guns and a big cz75 style 10mm gun sounds awesome to me, especially since its not really a gun that will ever have to. Barrel, slide, recoil spring, recoil spring guide and 1 magazine note.

Not like blew apart but the trigger plunger and spring cracked right through to the magwell. Note im only going to be shooting 9mm from this slide, not the 10mm hot loads its designed for. The older witness s and the current elite series have a heavier square slide profile. The widebody frame nestles comfortably in the hand for a gun with a payload of 15shots. Also heard of many cracked frames on the witness 10mm. Tanfoglio witness 10mm, square slide vs round slide. The slide runs on internal rails on the eaa witness p match the witness p match has fully adjustable sights and is more easily adjusted to todays wide range of 10mm bullet weights and power. The rounded ones have been reported to crack, usually in the 10mm with its corresponding high velocities and pressures. Dont let a few sensationalized stories on the internet about slide cracks deter you from buying one of the beauties. Testing cracked tanfoglio slide repaired with mig welder. So they kept the streamlined slide for the 9mm and. I have the witness 10mm compact and it is one of my favorite. On march 30, 2010, 10mm man of reported a crack in his 10mm witness starting under the safety and. The barrels are supported so you are not going to have a tendency for case blowout but the witness 10mm s are notorious for breaking slides when shot with full power 10mm ammo.

Tanfoglio frame competition magwell h069 add to wishlist. Tanfoglio eaa witness hunter 10mm unboxing youtube. Extractors in 9mm seem to last forever, ive never seen a cracked slide or frame, hopefully i dont. I have owned 3 eaa witness 10mm full size, two in wonderfinish, and one blued. Now everybody loved their witness 10mm but me, reason being my frame cracked almost immediately. Rushed into production, the 10mm round presented more problems than solutions. Tanfoglio eaa witness parts page 2 j and l gunsmithing. Put a standard 17lb wolff spring in this gun to replace the dual recoil spring debacle it came with. The manufacturer and eaa corp reserve the right to modify andor change any and all products either for improvements, manufacturing andor commercial reasons. Colt first chambered its 1911 series 80 in the cartridge in 1987, and it caused receivers to crack where the slide stop fits into the receiver.